ANC’s Yerjanik Abgaryan: “Tough problems with businessmen are solved with compromising evidences at Baghramyan 26”

– You have told the 168 hours that all political powers, besides the ANC, are cutting political deals with the government. What deals do you mean?

– What I mean is that the heads of those political powers are in personal contact and relations with the one who has captured the seat of the president in order to back both their status and the businesses of their partners. They have been a part of this government through the formation of this cleptocratic regime and they still continue similar relations with those groups. They are doing this through a policy of alternative opposition or alternative policies, which helps them develop relations with the government. My question is: how can there be civilized relations between law-abiding people and those who have thrown the statehood into deep crisis?

– A number of representatives from the Prosperous Armenia, including the spokesman, have said that they support the change of this government. Do you think it is possible that the Republican party may compromise the prime-minister’s seat to the PA?

– The empty and nonsense words of the incumbent prime-minister have failed his attempts to present himself as an intellectual professional and even the top officials of the cleptocratic regime want to get rid of him as soon as possible. I think he may be dismissed from that position even before the upcoming elections. However, I don’t see any reasons that would make the so-called RPA criminal and oligarchic party compromise that position to anyone else. Due to falsified elections they have majority in the parliament and if they compromise this position, it will be a big question as it will be a big deal with someone else. But such solution now can be a reason for clashes between the Karabakhi clan in Armenia and the local clans that are yet starting to enroot here (of course if people don’t wake up by that time and don’t kick all of them out of here).

– After a recent meeting of the president in the government and his critics the prime-minister made some changes in the government, which was mostly in the department of state procurements. What is the target of these actions? Do you share the opinion that this is a show?

– He accused the official that has been working under his control during the past four years for not “killing the head of the problem” and instead of that tackling the problems and lingering actions. Well, we could understand him if actions were taken but there was some delay, but it’s about crimes of billions. Now it turns out that the leaders of the state knew about those violations and waited till a good time would come to use it for PR. During that meeting Serzhik Sargsyan put both himself and the prime-minister under an accusation in crimes. However, I believe that this was a demonstrated show on the part of the people that can break the destiny of people to parts, and the number of such people has become even more during the past 10-15 years.

– In an interview you said that the ANC should be careful in relation to the PA. Why?

– I said that generally they have to be careful in collaborative relations. In other words, in politics they make commitments, and they must be very careful about it.

– Do you think the ANC and PA may join and bring up one candidate for presidency?

– It is only the PA that still does not show signs about it decision; the other parties have made it certain what they are going to do. Currently the political sector is divided into many parts, and it is not excluded that things may change and alliances may originate as the election day approaches. The PA has forced itself in a difficult situation and is playing cheap games.

They don’t know anything but they act like they know everything. Ultimately Tsarukyan will have to figure out if he is being nominated or wants to cut deals with Sargsyan. Theoretically it is possible that there may be cooperation with the ANC too, but there are questions that only Tsarukyan can answer.

He should understand that such tricky behavior is no good. Tough problems with businessmen are solved with compromising evidences at Baghramyan 26, and this is not a trading of gas where the air can be sold for money too. To some point I think it is clear that the opposition powers are not going to endorse one candidate and I think it is positive in this situation. All political powers have a historical responsibility against the Armenian nation to stop the collapse of statehood. I think that dealing with this reality they should ignore all stereotypes and prejudices and work together to break this Karabakh clan and the powers serving for their interests. I think that it is the right time to start negotiations between those parties to define the strategy and tactics of the future struggle.

– Will the PA support the ANC’s candidate or the vice versa?

– You should ask that question to the PA. The other part will be answered by the ANC representatives.

– What do you think about a possible joint candidate for the opposition? Is there anyone for this role?

– You are asking ridiculous questions. A joint candidate can come up only in case elections go to the second phase. Are you suspicious that we can find a good candidate that will be better than those governmental servants that have been sold to foreigners? The one and joint candidate I imagine now is Levon Ter-Petrosyan.

– Rumors say that the second president Robert Kocharyan may be involved in the presidential election process. You have said that whatever Kocharyan does, he can never be back to power. Do you still think so?

– I don’t see him in that process. I don’t believe in competition between that couple. People have seen him shedding blood. Also, Kocharyan has left so many ruins after his tenure that many generations yet to come will remember that. Only that fact that he gave the most important strategic objects and properties of Armenia to a foreign country against so much debt borrowed is enough to put his name in the same list of historical people famous with treason to the state. Kocharyan has given special roles in this treason to his partner and brother Serzhik.